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Post by naz on Dec 4, 2009 23:13:27 GMT
Very well done. It was indeed a perfect answer as far as I'm concerned. It would be extremely interesting to see a fundamentalist apologist answer the question "What if I'm wrong?" in the most honest, self-reflective manner possible. (Leave aside for the moment the question of whether honesty and self-reflection tend to be qualities of fundamentalists  .) What if God actually wanted you to be skeptical? What if God wanted you to be tolerant? What if God didn't want you to take yourself so seriously? What if God wanted you to care more about being good than about being right? That'd be my kind of god. |
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Post by dahduh on Dec 5, 2009 8:55:33 GMT
All right, how about this:
So Richard Dawkins eventually kicks the bucket and he finds himself at Pearly Gates. There's St. Peter standing there, and he says "Sorry, you didn't believe in God. I can't let you in."
But Dawkins says, "but wait a minute. There's no evidence for God, is there?"
"Of course there is, all you had to do was look around," retorts St. Peter. "What about irreducible complexity then?"
"Ah," said Dawkins. "But that's easily explained by co-option of pre-evolved forms."
"Well the perfection of the human form then," said St. Peter.
"What!" retorts Dawkins. "What about weakness in the spine? The blind spot? The broken vitamin-C gene? The vestigial cecum? And just look at me!"
"Well ok, I'll grant you that," says St. Peter. "Fine. The sheer improbability of life! Explain that!"
"Pah!" said Dawkins. "I disproved that with my 'METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL' program years ago!"
Now St. Peter is getting really irritated and takes a deep breath. "All right then Mr. smartypants! Let's go back to basics. Where does all the energy in the Universe come from then? It can't have come from nothing!"
"Easy," said Dawkins promptly. "Just add up all the mass and the negative gravitational energy and you get zero. As you say, there's nothing."
At this St. Peter frowns in silence. "Hang on a minute," he says eventually and picks up the phone. When it's answered he covers up the mouthpiece and whispers: "Hey Jesus, we have a problem here. I think we may have been had."
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Post by ydoaPs on Dec 5, 2009 13:44:00 GMT
Very well done. It was indeed a perfect answer as far as I'm concerned. It would be extremely interesting to see a fundamentalist apologist answer the question "What if I'm wrong?" in the most honest, self-reflective manner possible. (Leave aside for the moment the question of whether honesty and self-reflection tend to be qualities of fundamentalists .) What if God actually wanted you to be skeptical? What if God wanted you to be tolerant? What if God didn't want you to take yourself so seriously? What if God wanted you to care more about being good than about being right? |
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Post by slamminsam on Dec 5, 2009 15:24:32 GMT
That's a good video there, ydoaPs. I think "The Deity" had one thing wrong, though. He referred to loving your neighbor as "the easy stuff". WRONG! That's a lifetime of effort and discipline right there. BTW, that's going to be you negotiating to be on "The Team" with the hot blonde someday, ydoaPs. ;D Nice version of Jesus, too-not so wimpy & hippieish as you'd normally see. Strange that skeptics make Jesus look kinda cool.  |
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Post by ydoaPs on Dec 5, 2009 15:29:52 GMT
That's a good video there, ydoaPs. I think "The Deity" had one thing wrong, though. He referred to loving your neighbor as "the easy stuff". WRONG! That's a lifetime of effort and discipline right there. BTW, that's going to be you negotiating to be on "The Team" with the hot blonde someday, ydoaPs. ;D Nice version of Jesus, too-not so wimpy & hippieish as you'd normally see. Strange that skeptics make Jesus look kinda cool. That's the only one I've seen, but there are a lot more MrDeity videos. |
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Post by naz on Dec 5, 2009 15:45:16 GMT
That's a good video there, ydoaPs. I think "The Deity" had one thing wrong, though. He referred to loving your neighbor as "the easy stuff". WRONG! That's a lifetime of effort and discipline right there. the DEITY got something wrong???!!!!  ;D |
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